Wednesday, 15 January 2014

The People continue to vote! UPDATED!

This is just a quick observational update to my previous post here -

http://oswaldinthedoorwaynotreally.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/meanwhile-back-in-real-world.html

Remember that these are real comments, left by real people on the first of Ralph's "Visible Proof" video series, which was shared on Youtube by someone known as "MsNoWorldOrder". Unlike Ralph's YouTube channel, comments left on his film here are not censored...

Since I made that blog, people have continued to vote. Are ANY of them convinced by Ralph's presentation?

Er...not really....

Ralph Cinque, Billy Lovelady, Altgens 6, JFK

Ralp Cinque, Billy Lovelady, Altgens 6, JFK

Ralph Cinque, Billy Lovelady, Altgens 6, Jfk

Ralph Cinque, Billy Lovelady, Altgens 6, JFK

Ralph, put some clothes on for god's sake. You're not fooling anybody....

UPDATE!

My god this man is dense. Ralph never misses a chance to display his total ignorance of how anything works.

This is his latest rant -

Ralph Cinque, Billy Lovelady, Altgens 6, Jfk

Here's my screenshot of his clearly visible post taken less than five minutes ago, along with my reply to it -




The posts of the people you've got rushing over there to try and even the balance are visible too Ralph. You should probably get higher class opinions than those of Jay Knowles though...

Now this could quickly become hilarious, so nobody spoil it by telling him where his dumb comments are!

And before you even think of editing out where you called them all assholes on your blog, forget it. I already got the screenshot.

Ralph, you really are the dumbest fuck ever to draw breath...



Tuesday, 14 January 2014

Ralph Cinque busts another of his own claims....UPDATED! plus FURTHER UPDATE!

Ralph Cinque attempts to show that Billy Lovelady was standing upright - but misses the point completely.

Er...ok Ralph, so what? And incidentaly, not meaning to be personal and all but you're looking like absolute crap these days. I'd see a doctor if I were you. A real one....

Ralph Cinque still fails to understand the issues.

Yeah...look Ralph I'm pretty busy right now, is this actually going anywhere?

Billy Lovelady in Altgens 6 was leaning to his left.

Seriously? Well Ralph, the thing is...

Ralph Cinque's attempted comparison nicely proves that Billy Lovelady was leaning in Altgens 6

If you'll just let me finish Ralph, I'm trying to explain it to you...

Billy Lovelady is still leaning in the Weigman film

Ralph, seriously, just listen for a moment..

Altgens and Weigman images ofBilly Lovelady compared

Ok Ralph, I'm going to have to stop you there. First of all let's just put paid to the lie that there are no visible lines on Doorman apart from some I've drawn in. Even by your very low standards this attempt to cloud the issue is pathetic. I've said already that I'm quite happy for you to use the animated gifs that I have on this blog, all you need to do is drop me an email asking for them. I know you have the address, surely you must remember sending me this just yesterday?

Another attempt at email intimidation recieved from Ralph Cinque

Although you do appear to be somewhat confused...I don't know anyone by the name of Duncan "Wee Cock Sparra" Macrae.

Anyway, if you don't want the gifs then just remember that to anybody following this exchange your selective use of frames from them only confirms your reputation as a desperate liar. Of course, if that's the image you're trying to project then please feel free to carry on....or you could use this one, which shows everything pretty nicely with nothing drawn in at all.

Lovelady's plaid shirt overlayed on Altgens 6 demonstrates how the pattern matches

To get back to your original point, it is of course obvious that I've matched the shirt at the same angle as the visible lines in Altgens. And since the visible lines in Altgens are at an angle rather than horizontal the match serves as a great confirmation that Lovelady was leaning to his left when the photo was taken - which is exactly what sane and rational people have been saying all along. But thanks for pointing out that your assertion that he was actually standing upright is in fact total junk.

Anything else?

Ralph Cinque incorrectly identifies Lee Oswald in the Weigman film.

Well of course Ralph, nobody would claim to see a plaid pattern in that image, and it's a great pity that the Weigman doorway footage available to us is of poor quality ( although I think we could do a little better than the junk you like to use, but no matter ).
The whole point is that we don't need to see a plaid pattern here, and only a lunatic, or someone trying to promote a falsehood would suggest that we do. Ralph is well aware that no one would attempt to make an identification of anybody based solely on an image of such poor quality as this. The Weigman footage IS useful though in confirming the position of the doorway figures seen in Altgens simply because common sense tells us that in the few seconds between Altgens and Weigman no one has radically changed their positions. This is of course not the same thing as saying noboday has moved - but we know they haven't moved much.
Consequently we don't need the level of detail which shows Lovelady's patterned shirt to identify him in Weigman. We know it's him because he's standing in the same place. And if he's a little more upright than in Altgens ( and it's very hard to say that with confidence based on the above image ) then all that is proven is that he's straightened up a little. A small amount of time has passed...and people move. 
The Weigman footage incidentally also busts two more of Ralph's claim's, the so-called "Black Tie Man" and the completely ludicrous "Obfuscated Man", but that's for another time.
The man we are looking at above is still Billy Lovelady.

Is that it Ralph? Oh wait, there's more...

1971 photo of Billy Lovelady in the TSBD doorway

Of course, with Ralph you've got to say everything twice.
The above photo of Billy Lovelady proves that in 1971 he was photographed standing upright. In Altgens 6. the slanting pattern of the shirt confirms that Lovelady was leaning to his left. And that you're full of crap...again.






UPDATE!



You know, the biggest frustration in dealing with Ralph Cinque isn't the debunking of his B.S. - that's the easy part. It's the fact that he's such a massive fucking liar.
Ralph's only gambit, having no answer to anything I've presented here is to lie through his teeth while gambling that the number of people checking these exchanges is small enough for him to get away with it. His reply to the above blog is a perfect example of this.
It occurrs to me that rather than take the time and effort involved in writing another rebuttal that he'll only lie about anyway, the best way to demonstrate what's actually going on here would be to reproduce his reply in full and let it speak for itself.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the truly pathetic spectacle of the desperate, lying fool Ralph C.Cinque, twisting hopelessly in the wind....










And the most striking thing in this collection of crap is the way that in every Doorman image that he uses the lines on the shirt stick out like a sore thumb.

The emperor truly has no clothes......

FURTHER UPDATE!

Further rambling, an amusing email and Ralph's most desperate attempt to deny the shirt pattern yet! 

Ralph Cinque, Billy Lovelady, Altgens 6, JFK

Ralph Cinque, Billy Lovelady, Altgens 6, Weigman Film, JFK

Ralph, when you have to resort to attempting that comparison it's truly time to give up. Please re - read the above blog....moron.










Monday, 13 January 2014

Emperor Ralph's New Clothes...UPDATED!

I'm sure we're all familiar with the old Hans Christian Andersen tale, but just in case you aren't, it goes something like this...

A vain Emperor who cares about nothing except wearing and displaying clothes hires two swindlers who promise him the finest, best suit of clothes from a fabric invisible to anyone who is unfit for his position or "hopelessly stupid". The Emperor's ministers cannot see the clothing themselves, but pretend that they can for fear of appearing unfit for their positions and the Emperor does the same. Finally the swindlers report that the suit is finished, they mime dressing him and the Emperor marches in procession before his subjects. The townsfolk play along with the pretence, not wanting to appear unfit for their positions or stupid. Then a child in the crowd, too young to understand the desirability of keeping up the pretence, blurts out that the Emperor is wearing nothing at all and the cry is taken up by others. The Emperor cringes, suspecting the assertion is true, but continues the procession.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor's_New_Clothes

Could Andersen have written a more perfect description of Ralph Cinque and the Oswald Innocence Campaign? I don't think so.....

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Ralph C.Cinque, the self appointed, modern day Emperor of JFK research. He's naked and he knows it. That's why, unable to refute any of the evidence I've shown here or answer the questions asked of him he can only resort to bare-faced lying. Let's take a look at the latest selection....


Ralph Cinque, Altgens 6, Billy Lovelady, JFK

Ralph Cinque, Billy Lovelady, Altgens 6, JFK

Here Ralph attemps to salvage some ground by claiming yet again that you need to see a perfect plaid pattern in order to see a match while ignoring the fact that the reasons why we don't are already covered here -

To recap, we are actually only seeing a small portion of Lovelady's shirt, the area of which is not large enough to show many complete boxes.

Billy Lovelady, JFK, Doorway Man

Hardly any in fact, and in addition this tiny, unfocused portion of the Altgens photo does not show the shirt in perfect detail. We saw, USING RALPH'S OWN PHOTO taken from his shambolic "re-enactment" that we should not expect it to do so. What IS striking, and plainly visible to those not involved in Ralph's disinfo organisation is that the detail the image does retain shows horizontal and vertical lines which match the shirt to Lovelady - not Oswald.

We then move on to this gem..

Ralph Cinque, Billy Lovelady, Altgens 6, JFK

Ralph is getting desperate. The visible portion of the right side of Lovelady's shirt in Altgens amounts to a small sliver. Once again, there's just not enough area to see boxes, and there's less detail here than the the left side of the shirt. But, once again, the detail that remains shows lines that are a match to Lovelady's shirt. Not only are there lines, but the lay of the collar is a striking match to Lovelady. 

There's more...

Ralph Cinque, Billy Lovelady, Altgens 6, JFK

Well Ralph, the thing is that what I claim to see is what is clearly visible. I'm not the first and certainly not the only one to see a pattern in the shirt, but I might claim a small first for presenting the matches in a way that you can't refute. ( And trust me Ralph, you haven't even come close. Merely repeating the same lie over and over isn't a refutation of anything. Don't feel too bad though, you're not alone...Jim Fetzer only offered his usual blustering B.S before retreating, never to be heard from again...).

And yet more...

Ralph Cinque, Billy Lovelady, Altgens 6, JFK

Here Ralph is referring to my last blog -

The thing is Ralph, I didn't round up any support. I don't need to, because I merely pointed out that the vast majority of impartial observers see that the shirt is patterned, and no amount of blustering about what YOU demand they should see changes that. When folks aren't censored by you they report what they see and they see what is there. They see that the Emperor Ralph has no clothes.

More of the same nonsense follows, but this paragraph contains a blatant lie that has to be addressed -

Ralph Cinque is a liar

Now I don't mind in the slightest that Ralph has used my images on his blog. He's even more deranged than usual if he thinks it's helping him in some way. However, as always with Ralph, there's a catch. As you'll have seen here, I made my presentation using animated gifs in which the various matches are faded in and out. Ralph, in order to sustain the lie that a vertical line is not visible on Doorman, uses a single frame which doesn't happen to show that match. Small point, but proof once again ( as if any were needed ) that there's nothing that Ralph won't misrepresent in his attempts to shore up a lie. ( And by the way Ralph if you'd like to use the whole gif then just drop me an email....you know the address).

That last paragraph however does contain Ralph's admission that there are horizontal markings on Doorman's shirt, so at last we're making some progress. Oh, and Ralph....the horizontal markings that you're now admitting to correspond EXACTLY to Lovelady's shirt. Anyway, maybe now Ralph will attempt an answer to the question that he dodged previously ....

Ralph Cinque, Altgens 6, Billy Lovelady, Doorway Man, JFK

Ralph Cinque, Lies, Billy Lovelady, Altgens 6, Doorway Man, JFK
You see Ralph, the point here is that it makes no difference whether you use my images or your own - they all prove you wrong. In the real world, everybody can see that you're wearing...nothing at all.

And Ralph, since this is a question that you obviously can't answer, let's make it an open invitation to ANY of the OIC brains trust to come up with something. Surely out of all those senior members SOMEONE can offer an explanation? ( And Ralph, let's just be clear that merely typing on your blog that so-and so said something is proof of nothing, especially given your record of economy with the truth. Let's hear them go public....themselves....). Please Ralph, get somebody to take a stab at it...I'd like to move on to some other things.....
I must admit that I'm a little surprised that Ralph hasn't yet resorted to the line I expected him to take and simply claim that the pattern ( which, after a long period of denial he's now admitting to ) is faked. It is, after all, something that he's hinted at in the past -

Ralph Cinque on the pattern of Doorman's shirt


It may be that even Ralph is smart enough to realise the pitfalls in going down that route - but I won't elaborate further for the moment. After all, he may yet choose to...

Harold Weisberg was wrong Ralph. So are you.....and of course you know that, but still the procession continues....

Billy Lovelady, JFK, Doorway Man, Altgens 6

Billy Lovelady, JFK, Doorway Man, Altgens 6


Now since the spectacular failure of "He Didn't Do It" ( has anybody else noticed how this hasn't been mentioned for weeks?), it occurs to me that the OIC may be in need of another song. I'm suggesting this one...just substitute "Ralph" for "the King" and you're good to go....


Oh and by the way Ralph, we realise this stuff is desperately difficult for you, but I'm not bpete......

UPDATE!

Long, rambling reply from Ralph which as usual says absolutely nothing and contains outright lies and misrepresentations aplenty, the usual switch back to some crappier images in an attempt to fudge the issues and another complete failure to address the question posed to him above ( for the third time....).No change there then!
I'm not going to keep going over the same ground in response but I will just make a quick reply to Ralph's feeble attempts to suggest that the OIC catalogue of imagined similarities between the shirts have some importance.

A quick Google search revealed these images from Asos.com -




Ralph's entire argument here, when stripped of the lies, smoke and mirrors is this - I see more matches than you. therefore I win. It's the logic of a small child.
Now the two shirts above are from the same range and styled exactly the same, so they have a great many matching features - the collar, sleeves, and buttons are identical.And yet no one in their right mind is about to claim that these are images of the same shirt. The one distinctive feature that we can see overrides all of the numerous matches between the two. And the distinctive feature is...( let's all say it together really slowly so that Ralph can understand).....one of the shirts is clearly PATTERNED.

( And I'd just like to sincerely apologise to readers of this blog for having to make the above comparison. I know that some things shouldn't need pointing out, but please remember that this is Ralph Cinque we're talking to).

Game over. It's not rocket science Ralph...

NOTE TO READERS..

I've just noticed when checking on my Ipad that the embedded Youtube video link which closed the above blog may not be visible on a mobile device. I have absolutely no idea why this should be, but the link to the video is here -